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    Hey everyone,
    I attached some photos of a Louis Vuitton Handbag that I am having hard time to find the right product to clean it.
    I have tried Connolly, Leather Master and Leatherique without any success.
    That kind of leather get dirty so quickly its just hard to keep it clean.
    What can I do about that? Is there a solution or do I need to send it to the factory to get a replacement?

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    #4 I also would like to note that one handle got a strange feel which is not smooth like the other one and it is more coarse feel.


    Thanks,
    Eliran

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    Thank you for posting these very good pictures!

    These “Vachetta” leather trim is also known as “Naked Leathers”.

    They are “Vegetable Tanned” to give the extra firmness to retain the article shape.

    These leathers are “fatliquor thirsty” and it is the fatliquor that helps to resist absorption and staining.

    Fatliquor helps to retain its rich tone color too.

    In most cases, when newly bought it is already in pale-biscuit color; a sign of diminishing fatliquor.

    From production time until the item is bought; it may take years and all these while the fatliquor evaporates as VOC (Volatile Organic Compound).


    "Vachetta" is the most sensitive among all leather types:

    pH Sensitive – Its pH neutral is around 4 and any cleaning products above the pH of 7 will cause it to brown.

    That’s the reason it comes to this brown color from perspiration stains that shift from the acidity to alkalinity.

    Perspiration contains traces of urea that when aged and ferments with the natural bacteria from the air shift alkaline – that browns.

    To reduce the browning a pH 2.0 acidifier may be applied to neutralize the alkalinity.


    UV Sensitive – Unlike all other leathers that will fade and goes lighter in color these “vegetable tanned” leathers behave just like our skin – it goes darker (sun tanned).


    This gives you a little idea about the chemistry reaction between the leather and the elements against it – that result in these conditions.


    Here is my recommendation:

    Phase 1 – Degreasing.
    A low pH 2.2 Degreaser with Degreaser-2.2 is used to degrease the embedded body greasy perspiration stains.
    This gel degreaser in soak, dwell and massage into the leather structure to Penetrate, Lubricate and Suspense these embedded stains.
    Then it is followed with a thorough pH 3.0 rinsing with Rinse-3.0; hand squeezing or scudding and extract with terry towel until towel shows clean.
    You would be amaze how much these thirsty leather have suck in all those foreign contamination – should have been the protective “fatliquor” instead.
    Leave it to dry; as the foreign contamination wicks up; periodic extraction with terry towel helps remove these contaminations easier when it is completely dry.
    When the leather is crispy dry foreign soiling particulates is further erase off the leather with Leather Eraser-4.

    Phase 2 – Browning Treatment:
    To reduce browning caused by Alkalinity through perspiration and or other alkaline cleaning solution Acidic solution is used.
    First stage is to use a pH 2.0 acidifier with Acidifier-2.0 – spray, soak, agitate and leave to dry.
    When dry use Leather Eraser-4 to erase further suspended foreign residue and inspect.
    Repeat treatment as necessary, otherwise a leather-safe bleaching treatment is recommended.
    A pH 3.5 d’Tannin-3.5 is necessary to do the bleaching effect follows by a pH 1.3 accelerator with d'Tarnish-1.3 to boost the working effect of d’Tannin-3.5.
    Spray and let it soak evenly, extract with towel and leave it do dry naturally and inspect.
    Foreign residue can be further erase with Leather Eraser-4 and inspect.
    When the overall treatment is satisfactorily the leather is rinse with Rinse-3.0 as in phase 1 until the towel shows clean and may proceed with phase 3 while the leather is still damp (squeeze with dry towel).

    Phase 3 – Leather Rejuvenating.
    Since the leather has gone through phase 1 and 2 soaking through; Hydrator-3.3 treatment may be skipped but proceed with fatliquoring while the leather is evenly damp.
    Fatliquor-5.0 is an anionic fatliquor that carries a (-) ionic charge.
    It will penetrate and hydrogen-bond with the cationic leather fibrils which has a (+) ionic charge.
    Fatliquor is an emulsion blend of natural “Fat, Oil and Water” used originally in the tannery.
    As the water evaporates more fatliquor is applied as long as it penetrates.
    Fatliquoring will enrich the tone of the leather, reduce absorbency, increase strength and suppleness and prevents leather cracking.
    See this Discovery Channel video on “Fatliquoring”.
    http://www.leathercleaningrestoratio...ead.php?t=1772

    Phase 4 – Abraded Skin Repair:
    An option is to repair abraded skin due to dry and wet rubbing with Impregnator-26.
    This skin repair with applying the transparent natural color Impregnator-26 is to impregnate worn leather grains and micro cracks.
    It to fills and tightens with good leveling properties that is film forming for improve abrasion resistance.

    Phase 5 – Rub Resistance Protector:
    Use Leather Scent-D (draggy-feel with an unforgettable classical leather scent that charms).


    To rectify this problem of greasy body stain on Vachetta leather; the above recommended procedure can only gives you a desirable result; whether you are a novice or a professional.

    I have provided the “Science “in the products and also “Art” of how to accomplish it!

    It is now up to you to follow through with understanding and patience.

    Roger Koh
    Leather Doctor®

    Email me [email protected] for the product price list.
    The comprehensive product line can be found in this link: http://www.leathercleaningrestoratio...read.php?t=360

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliran View Post

    Picture #4 - I also would like to note that one handle got a strange feel which is not smooth like the other one and it is more coarse feel.

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    The coarse feel can be rectified by fine sanding (1000 to 1500 sanding grit) in-between repair by Impregnator-26 in conjunction with "Phase 4 process".

    Phase 4 – Abraded Skin Repair:
    An option is to repair abraded skin due to dry and wet rubbing with Impregnator-26.
    This skin repair with applying the transparent natural color Impregnator-26 is to impregnate worn leather grains and micro cracks.
    It to fills and tightens with good leveling properties that is film forming for improve abrasion resistance.


    Roger Koh
    Leather Doctor®

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    Default How to Soften the Vachetta after de-greasing the LV handles, straps, piping

    How to soften the Vachetta after de-greasing the LV handles, straps, piping

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    Hi Roger,

    I will appreciate if you can walk through on What solution or chemical can be used to prevent the vachetta from becoming hard/stiff after cleaning ?

    What is the topcoat to use to this vachetta leather after cleaning ?
    Any help you can extend will be appreciated.

    Apple

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    Hi Roger,

    In addition o my previous email, please advise what products should
    I buy from you.

    1. I need a cleaning agent/solution for LV vachetta handles/straps/pipings that turned dark brown. I want to lighten the vachetta leather.

    2. I also need a cleaning agent/solution to soften the vachetta leather after cleaning.

    3. If there's any ink marks, grease/oil stains on the vachetta leather, what solution will you recommend ?

    I might be in Vancouver, Canada this July, 2011. How far is your company from Vancouver as I want to visit your office. ^_^
    If you have time, please provide me the above prices for my reference.

    Thanks,
    Apple

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post

    1. I need a cleaning agent/solution for LV vachetta handles/straps/pipings that turned dark brown. I want to lighten the vachetta leather.

    2. I also need a cleaning agent/solution to soften the vachetta leather after cleaning.

    3. If there's any ink marks, grease/oil stains on the vachetta leather, what solution will you recommend ?

    1. I need a cleaning agent/solution for LV vachetta handles/straps/pipings that turned dark brown. I want to lighten the vachetta leather.

    Degreasing:
    Degreaser-2.2 > Rinse-3.0

    Lighten Vachetta Leather:
    d’Tarnish-1.3 > Rinse-3.0

    2. I also need a cleaning agent/solution to soften the vachetta leather after cleaning.

    Leather Rejuvenation:
    Hydrator-3.3 > Fatliquor-5.0


    3. If there's any ink marks, grease/oil stains on the vachetta leather, what solution will you recommend ?

    Ink & Dye Removal:
    Prep-4.4 > Cleaner-3.8 > Rinse-3.0 > d’Tarnish-1.3/

    Grease/Oil Stain:
    Degreaser-2.2 > Rinse-3.0

    Here’s the Vachetta Problem Solving Guide-V9:


    And here’s the Vachetta Leather Care Kit-V3:

    Leather Doctor® Vachetta Leather Care Kit-V3

    Contents:
    Degreaser-2.2 – 60ml
    Prep-4.4 – 60ml
    Cleaner-3.8 – 250ml
    Rinse-3.0 – 250ml
    Hydrator-3.3 – 250ml
    Fatliquor-5.0 – 250ml
    Leather Scent-D – 120ml
    Leather (horsehair) Brush-1 – 1pc
    3” Poly-Brush® - 1pc
    Washable Rags – 5pcs

    Add-on individual products can be found here:
    http://www.leathercleaningrestoratio...read.php?t=360


    Roger Koh
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    Hello !

    Thank you for the prompt reply.. Do you have any branch in Asia where I can take a workshop about leathers - how to clean, condition, de-grease, soften the Vachetta leathers ?

    Or CD for sale, for viewing ?

    Do you also have any Asian distributors of your products ?

    Apple

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    How to soften the Vachetta after de-greasing the LV handles, straps, piping

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    Hi Roger,

    I will appreciate if you can walk through on What solution or chemical can be used to prevent the vachetta from becoming hard/stiff after cleaning ?

    What is the topcoat to use to this vachetta leather after cleaning ?
    Any help you can extend will be appreciated.

    Apple

    Degreasing Step:
    To degrease use: Degreaser-2.2 > Rinse-3.0

    Leather Rejuvenating Step:
    This step is to prevent the vachetta from becoming hard/stiff when dry.
    It’s a combination of Hydrator-3.3 > Fatliquor-5.0.
    The hydrating process is to relax and separate the stick together fibers in the leather structure, preconditioning it for effective fatliquoring; so that the fatliquor’s fat and oil water encased molecules can lubricates every fibril, working like millions of inter-connecting hinges to gives the leather its softness and suppleness with strength.
    Besides, it will purge foreign contamination to the surface to be extracted when damp and erased when dry. On the surface it helps to reduce surface tension for even absorption for the fatliquor to have an even appearance.
    Fatliquor is what makes the leather as soft as you wish – that’s often refer to as the lifeblood of leathers. Besides the fat and oil helps reduce absorbency against liquid stains – see this video on Fatliquor by Discovery Channel: http://videos.howstuffworks.com/disc...quor-video.htm

    What is the topcoat to use to this vachetta leather after cleaning ?

    Vachetta is “naked” leather; so do not have a topcoat originally out of the tannery; neither it’s dyed, the color comes naturally from vegetable tannin color itself.
    Among all leathers, it behaves just like our skin – darkens with sun tanning, whilst others fades.
    The recommended non film-forming non-stick, rub-resistant protector that allows natural transpiration is Leather Scent-D that also impart a classic leather scent; the odorless version is Draggy Feel-79.
    The only breathable topcoat that may be used for minor repairs to the surface is Topcoat Aniline-89N.



    Roger Koh
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