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Hi all,
I've recently bought a Collonil diamant cream polish, to use for my wallet, it contains wax, cedar oil and some other stuff. i mainly wanted to use it for conditioning my wallet, but then
i saw in a couple of websites that one should never use wax contained material with leather
because it would not let leather to breath and hence harms the leather. is this right? and can
i use that for conditioning my leather which is kind of dry.
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can i use that for conditioning my leather which is kind of dry.
Dryness of leather in this case may be due to the diminishing effect of the original fatliquor (fat, oil and water) through evaporation as VOC (volatile organic compound). Dryness and stiffness may also be caused by leaching out of the fatliquor when alkaline cleaners are used. As the average pH of leather is from 3 – 5, it’s recommended to use cleaners that are within this leather-safe pH range.
i mainly wanted to use it for conditioning my wallet,
To condition the wallet against dryness, is to introduce fat and oil into the leather structure. This is done by using an emulsion fatliquor where the fat and oil are water encased in suspensions, which look like fresh milk. When applied to the leather it is quickly absorbed into the leather structure, where the negative fatliquor is hydrogen-bond with the positive leather protein fibers and the encasing water breaks free and wicks up. The fat and oil coats the fibrils that lubricates it, allowing it to slight over one another smoothly when the leather is flexed with stretchability and compressibility, thus imparts softness, suppleness and strength.
but then i saw in a couple of websites that one should never use wax contained material with leather because it would not let leather to breath and hence harms the leather.
Transpiration is one characteristic that makes breathable leather unique. The breathing pores should not be clog up when conditioning it, is a desirable expectation. That is why the leather is originally done with fatliquor, where the water contents breaks free when the fat and oil hydrogen-bond with the protein fibers. The plumping water contents helps separates the inter-fibrillary spaces and transform them into breathing spaces when dry, that allows the leather to breathe through, known as transpiration.
is this right?
The question is the medium of the wax, is it in a form of a paste, a cream or an emulsion. How does the wax gets to lubricate the leather fibrils within the leather structure. It would be more effective if it is in a form of an emulsion. In wax pull-up aniline and nubuck leathers, the secondary structural conditioner is infused by wax. The wax is introduces exactly the same method as the primary fatliquoring, using a wax emulsion. Again the water contents will leave the inter-fibrillary spaces and leave behind a breathing space.
Be it "structural" primary or secondary conditioning by wax, fat or oil - the structural integrity of the leather should remain breathable or transpirable.
Roger Koh
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Picture shows how fatliquor (fat, oil & water) is sprayed applied onto this Channel Bag to condition it with softness, suppleness and strength, when dry...with leather breathability or transpirability.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/Rogerkoh/140.jpg
This picture shows an emulsion form of wax at work to rejuvenate the secondary leather fashion wax effect both into the structure and onto the surface.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/Rogerkoh/157.jpg
This picture shows how the surface residue wax in activated by using a heat blower. No polishing is required to bring back the original shine.
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Thanks for your interesting technical replies. i learned many useful things from them. so as i
learned using wax-contained conditioners doesn't necessarily harm leather. do you have any
ideas about this "Collonil diamant" leather cream polish or collectively about Collonil products? or do you have any suggestions about a special leather conditioner brand or product?
Here are the available conditioners, I will be glad to be of help...
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Leather Rejuvenator (5):
Leather Hydrator,
Leather Fatliquor,
Leather Scented Fatliquor,
Leather Oil Effect,
Leather Wax Effect,
Leather Doctor® Hydrator-3.3
It’s for Pigmented, Aniline, Vachetta, Nubuck, Suede, Hair-on-Hide and Woolskin leather types.
This is a pH 3.3 aqueous leather-safe hydrator with active surfactantcy for lowering the interfacial tension between the protein leather fibers and its constituents.
It’s for hydrating dried, stiffed or shrunk leathers to separates the crushed, stick together fibrils and relaxes them in the inter-fibrillary leather structure for effective distribution of the Fatliquor-5.0.
It’s for charging the leather protein fibers below its iso-electric point positive to hydrogen-bond with the ionic negative charged Fatliquor-5.0.
It’s for facilitating colloidal water movement within the leather structure during the wicking process to move soiling particulates to the surface.
It’s for reactivating the dormant dyestuff to resurface thus reducing the contrast between the color coat and the leather crust.
It’s for reducing the interfacial tension to eliminate blotchiness when dry especially absorbent leathers.
It’s for facilitating better finish penetration during refinishing thus providing good surface properties, especially the uniformity of surface dyeing during aniline refinishing.
This product is also available in concentrate to be cut with distilled water at a ratio of 1: 25.
Thus a 60ml bottle makes 1.64 quarts of Ready-To-Use product to save on shipping.
Ready-To-Use packing sizes are available in 250ml and in Quart.
Concentrate packing sizes are available in 60ml (1.64 quarts), 250ml (6.87 quarts) and in Quart (26 quarts).
Email [email protected] for prices.
Structural Hydrating Instruction:
1] Spray soaks evenly into cleaned leather.
2] Accelerate saturation - work on the reverse side, micro cracks, needle holes or perforation.
3] Option for even saturation is to cover with absorbent tissue paper and wet thoroughly then seal it up.
4] Allow a minimum of 4 to 24 hours of dwelling until the leather is fully hydrated, relaxed, evenly wet out or stain dispersed.
5] Unwrap, extract and saturate with Fatliquor-5.0 to rejuvenate for softness and strength while the leather is moist.
Leather Doctor® Fatliquor-5.0
It’s for Pigmented, Aniline, Vachetta, Nubuck, Suede, Hair-on-Hide and Woolskin leather types.
This is a pH 5.0 anionic charged micro emulsion fatliquor to rejuvenate leather with softness, suppleness and strength.
It’s for replenishing original fatliquor that diminishes thru sun-bleaching, ageing, heat and alkaline exposure or cleaning.
It penetrates and lubricates the leather fibers so that after drying they will be capable of sliding over one another smoothly.
It softens the leather with stretchability, compressibility and flexibility, while enhancing its rip tensile strength greatly.
It relaxes coarse breaks, creases and wrinkles to provide drapes, suppleness and prevents cracking.
It helps to keep leather at its optimum physical performance and prevent premature ageing.
This product is also available in concentrate to be cut with distilled water at a ratio of 1: 5.
Thus a 250ml bottle makes 1.58 quarts of Ready-To-Use product to save on shipping.
Ready-To-Use packing sizes are available in 250ml and in Quart.
Concentrate packing sizes are available in 250ml (1.58 quarts) and in Quart (6 quarts).
Email [email protected] for prices.
Instruction:
1] Shake well, foam brush or spray and ensure even absorption into the leather.
2] Accelerate penetration - work through the reverse side, micro cracks, needle holes or perforations.
3] Drive-in dried surface strays from milky to clear - use Hydrator-3.3.
4] Eliminate coarse breaks and creases - stretch it crosswise while damp.
5] Achieve extra softness - natural slow drying is preferred.
6] For desired softness - flex, stake or stretch it when dry.
Leather Doctor® Fatliquor LS-5.5
It’s for Pigmented, Aniline, Vachetta, Nubuck, Suede, Hair-on-Hide and Woolskin leather types.
This is the leather scented version of the original Fatliquor-5.0 with emphasis to bring the leather scent into the leather structure for odor masking.
This is a pH 5.5 anionic charged micro emulsion fatliquor to rejuvenate leather with softness, suppleness and strength other than the classical leather scent.
It’s for replenishing original fatliquor that diminishes thru sun-bleaching, ageing, heat and alkaline exposure or cleaning.
It penetrates and lubricates the leather fibers so that after drying they will be capable of sliding over one another smoothly.
It softens the leather with stretchability, compressibility and flexibility, while enhancing its rip tensile strength greatly.
It relaxes coarse breaks, creases and wrinkles to provide drapes, suppleness and prevents cracking.
It helps to keep leather at its optimum physical performance and prevent premature ageing.
This product is also available in concentrate to be cut with distilled water at a ratio of 1: 7.
Concentrate packing sizes are available in 250ml and in Quart.
Email [email protected] for prices.
Instruction:
1] Shake well, foam brush or spray and ensure even absorption into the leather.
2] Accelerate penetration - work through the reverse side, micro cracks, needle holes or perforations.
3] Drive-in dried surface strays from milky to clear - use Hydrator-3.3.
4] Eliminate coarse breaks and creases - stretch it crosswise while damp.
5] Achieve extra softness - natural slow drying is preferred.
6] For desired softness - flex, stake or stretch it when dry.
Leather Doctor® Oil Effect-2.8
It’s for Aniline and Nubuck oil pull-up leather types.
This is a pH 2.8 emulsion blend, oil effect leather rejuvenator.
It’s to rejuvenate diminishing oil pull-up effect lost through usage, ageing or cleaning.
This product is also available in concentrate to be cut with distilled water at a ratio of 1: 10.
Thus a 120ml bottle makes 1.39 quarts of Ready-To-Use product to save on shipping.
Ready-To-Use packing sizes are available in 250ml and in Quart.
Concentrate packing sizes are available in 120ml (makes 1.39 quarts), 250ml (makes 2.9 quarts) and in quart (makes 11 quarts).
Email [email protected] for prices.
Instruction:
1] Warm up and shake well.
2] Spread and saturate with foam brush into the leather structure evenly.
3] Allow 24 hours minimum natural drying time.
4] Create sharp pull-up effect by kneading, flexing or creasing it.
5] Impart a buttery-feel non-stick rub-resistant protection with a classic leather scent - use leather Scent-B.
Leather Doctor® Wax Effect-8.6
It’s for Aniline and Nubuck wax pull-up leather types.
This is a pH 8.6 aqueous emulsion wax effect leather rejuvenator.
It’s to rejuvenate wax pull-up effect diminished through usage, ageing or cleaning.
This product is also available in concentrate to be cut with distilled water at a ratio of 1: 10.
Thus a 120ml bottle makes 1.39 quarts of Ready-To-Use product to save on shipping.
Ready-To-Use packing sizes are available in 250ml and in Quart.
Concentrate packing sizes are available in 120ml (1.39 quarts), 250ml (2.77 quarts) and in Quart (10.5 quarts).
Email [email protected] for prices.
Instruction:
1] Warm up, shake well, spread and saturate with foam brush into the leather structure evenly.
2] Allow minimum 4 hours natural drying time or until cloudy residual wax shows on the surface.
3] Activate cloudy residual wax with a heat gun or hair dryer to bring out the natural waxy sheen.
4] Create pull-up effect by kneading, flexing or creasing it.
5] Impart a draggy-feel non-stick rub-resistant protection with a classic leather scent - use leather Scent-D.
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Leather Non-Stick Rub-Resistant Protector (8):
Protection-B (Buttery Feel-76)
Protection-D (Draggy Feel-79)
Protection-S (Silky Feel-43)
Protection-W (Waxy Feel-47)
Protection-B+ (Leather Scent-B)
Protection-D+ (Leather Scent-D)
Protection-S+ (Leather Scent-S)
Protection-W+ (Leather Scent-W)
Leather Doctor® Protection-B (Buttery Feel-76)
It’s for Pigmented, Aniline and Oil Pull-up Nubuck leather types.
This is a non-film forming, non-stick scentless protector that enhances a soft natural buttery-feel.
It’s for imparting a non-stick breathable barrier essentially to shield the detrimental effects of sticky soiling including the nasty ballpoint ink.
And for helping to release those tenacious dye-transfers stains especially on light colored leathers easily without resorting to unnecessary color refinishing.
Its natural buttery-feel protection increases the leather resistance to wet and dry rubs, thus reduce stretch, scuff and abrasion.
And it reduces friction squeaks that wear the finishes when leather is rubbed during movement.
This product is also available in concentrate to be cut with distilled water at a ratio of 1: 19.
Thus a 60ml bottle makes 1.26 quarts of Ready-To-Use product to save on shipping.
Ready-To-Use packing sizes are available in 250ml and in Quart.
Concentrate packing sizes are available in 60ml (1.26 quarts), 250ml (5.28 quarts) and in Quart (20 quarts).
Email [email protected] for prices.
Instruction:
1] Identify, inspect and dry soil removal prior to application.
2] Shake well, mist spray and spread evenly with a foam brush.
3] Or spray and wipe with absorbent towel for quick easy care.
Leather Doctor® Protection-D (Draggy Feel-79)
It’s for Aniline and Nubuck Wax Pull-up, Bicast, Vachetta, Steering Wheel and Leather Flooring.
This is a non-film forming, non-stick scentless protector that enhances a natural draggy-feel.
It imparts a non-stick breathable barrier essentially to shield the detrimental effects of sticky soiling including the nasty ballpoint ink.
And it does help to release those tenacious dye-transfer stains especially on light colored leathers easily without resorting to unnecessary color refinishing.
Its natural draggy-feel protection increases the leather resistance to wet and dry rubs, thus reduce stretch, scuff and abrasion.
It is also used as a scuff repairer, filling and concealing surface scuffs to improve appearance.
The drag produces an unforgettable familiar sound sweet to the ears when leather rubs.
This product is also available in concentrate to be cut with distilled water at a ratio of 1: 19.
Thus a 60ml bottle makes 1.26 quarts of Ready-To-Use product to save on shipping.
Ready-To-Use packing sizes are available in 250ml and in Quart.
Concentrate packing sizes are available in 60ml (1.26 quarts), 250ml (5.28 quarts) and in Quart (20 quarts).
Email [email protected] for prices.
Instruction:
1] Identify, inspect and dry soil removal before application.
2] Shake well, mist spray and spread evenly with a foam brush.
3] Spray and wipe with absorbent towel for quick easy care.
4] Groom nubuck with nubuckBrush2 for a “finger writing effect”.
Leather Doctor® Protection-S (Silky Feel-43)
It’s for Pure-Aniline, Nubuck, Suede, Hair-On-Hide and Woolskin leather types.
This is a non-film forming, non-stick scentless protector that enhances a natural silky-feel.
It imparts a non-stick surface essentially to shield the detrimental effects of sticky soiling including the nasty ballpoint ink.
And it does help to release those tenacious dye-transfer stains especially on light colored leathers easily without resorting to unnecessary color refinishing.
Its natural silky-feel protection increases the leather resistance to wet and dry rubs, thus reduce stretch, scuff and abrasion.
And it reduces friction squeaks that wear the finishes when leather is rubbed against during movement.
This product is also available in concentrate to be cut with distilled water at a ratio of 1: 19.
Thus a 60ml bottle makes 1.26 quarts of Ready-To-Use product to save on shipping.
Ready-To-Use packing sizes are available in 250ml and in Quart.
Concentrate packing sizes are available in 60ml (1.26 quarts), 250ml (5.28 quarts) and in Quart (20 quarts).
Email [email protected] for prices.
Instruction:
1] Identify, inspect and dry soil removal before application.
2] Shake well, fine mists spray on cleaned surface (airbrushing is preferred to avoid spits).
3] Groom nubuck with nubuckBrush2 for a “finger writing effect”.
Leather Doctor® Protection-W (Waxy Feel-47)
It’s for waxed Aniline, Vachetta and split Suede leather types.
This is a non-film forming, non-stick scentless protector that enhances a soft natural waxy-feel.
It imparts a non-stick breathable barrier essentially to shield the detrimental effects of sticky soiling including the nasty ballpoint ink.
And it does help to release those tenacious dye-transfer stains especially on light colored leathers easily without resorting to unnecessary color refinishing.
Its natural waxy-feel protection increases the leather resistance to wet and dry rubs, thus reduce stretch, scuff and abrasion.
And it reduces friction squeaks that wear the finishes when leather is rubbed against during movement.
This product is also available in concentrate to be cut with distilled water at a ratio of 1: 19.
Thus a 60ml bottle makes 1.26 quarts of Ready-To-Use product to save on shipping.
Ready-To-Use packing sizes are available in 250ml and in Quart.
Concentrate packing sizes are available in 60ml (1.26 quarts), 250ml (5.28 quarts) and in Quart (20 quarts).
Email [email protected] for prices.
Instruction:
1] Identify, inspect and dry soil removal prior to application.
2] Shake well, mist spray and spread evenly with a foam brush.
3] Or spray and wipe with absorbent towel for quick easy care.
Leather Doctor® Protection-B+ (Leather Scent-B)
It’s for Pigmented, Aniline and Nubuck Oil Pull-up leather types.
This is a non-film forming, non-stick rub-resistant protector that enhances a soft natural buttery-feel with a classic leather scent.
It’s for imparting a non-stick breathable barrier essentially to shield the detrimental effects of sticky soiling including the nasty ballpoint ink.
And for helping to release those tenacious dye-transfers stains especially on light colored leathers easily without resorting to unnecessary color refinishing.
Its natural buttery-feel protection increases the leather resistance to wet and dry rubs, thus reduce stretch, scuff and abrasion.
And it reduces friction squeaks that wear the finishes when leather is rubbed against during movement.
Or friction that wears the leather finishes caused by getting in and out of auto.
This product is also available in concentrate to be cut with distilled water at a ratio of 1: 9½.
Thus a 120ml bottle makes 1.39 quarts of Ready-To-Use product to save on shipping.
Ready-To-Use packing sizes are available in 250ml and in Quart.
Concentrate packing sizes are available in 120ml (1.39 quarts), 250ml (2.77 quarts) and in Quart (10.5 quarts).
Email [email protected] for prices.
Note:
To reduce sheen and scent add Buttery Feel-76.
Instruction:
1] Identify, inspect and dry soil removal prior to application.
2] Shake well, mist spray and spread evenly with a foam brush.
3] Or spray and wipe with absorbent towel for quick easy care.
Leather Doctor® Protection-D+ (Leather Scent-D)
It’s for Aniline and Nubuck Wax Pull-up leathers, Bicast, Vachetta, Steering Wheel and Leather Flooring.
This is a non-film forming, non-stick rub-resistant protector that enhances a draggy-feel with a classic leather scent.
It imparts a non-stick breathable barrier essentially to shield the detrimental effects of sticky soiling including the nasty ballpoint ink.
And it does help to release those tenacious dye-transfer stains especially on light colored leathers easily without resorting to unnecessary color refinishing.
Its natural draggy-feel protection increases the leather resistance to wet and dry rubs, thus reduce stretch, scuff and abrasion.
It is also used as a scuff repairer, filling and concealing surface scuffs to improve appearance.
The drag produces an unforgettable familiar sound sweet to the ears when leather is rubbed.
This product is also available in concentrate to be cut with distilled water at a ratio of 1: 9½.
Thus a 120ml bottle makes 1.39 quarts of Ready-To-Use product to save on shipping.
Ready-To-Use packing sizes are available in 250ml and in Quart.
Concentrate packing sizes are available in 120ml (1.39 quarts), 250ml (2.77 quarts) and in Quart (10.5 quarts).
Email [email protected] for prices.
Note:
To reduce sheen and scent add Draggy Feel-79.
Instruction:
1] Identify, inspect and dry soil removal before application.
2] Shake well, mist spray and spread evenly with a foam brush.
3] Spray and wipe with absorbent towel for quick easy care.
4] Groom nubuck with Nubuck Brush-2 for a “finger writing effect”.
Leather Doctor® Protection-S+ (Leather Scent-S)
It’s for Pure-Aniline, Nubuck, Suede, Hair-On-Hide and Woolskin leather types.
This is a non-film forming, non-stick rub-resistant protector that enhances a natural silky-feel with a classic leather scent.
It imparts a non-stick surface essentially to shield the detrimental effects of sticky soiling including the nasty ballpoint ink.
And it does help to release those tenacious dye-transfer stains especially on light colored leathers easily without resorting to unnecessary color refinishing.
Its natural silky-feel protection increases the leather resistance to wet and dry rubs, thus reduce stretch, scuff and abrasion.
And it reduces friction squeaks that wear the finishes when leather is rubbed against during movement.
This product is also available in concentrate to be cut with distilled water at a ratio of 1: 9½.
Thus a 120ml bottle makes 1.39 quarts of Ready-To-Use product to save on shipping.
Ready-To-Use packing sizes are available in 250ml and in Quart.
Concentrate packing sizes are available in 120ml (1.39 quarts), 250ml (2.77 quarts) and in Quart (10.5 quarts).
Email [email protected] for prices.
Note:
To reduce sheen and scent add Silky Feel-43
Instruction:
1] Identify, inspect and dry soil removal prior to application.
2] Shake well, fine mists spray on cleaned surface (airbrushing is preferred on nubuck to avoid spits).
3] Groom nubuck with Nubuck Brush-2 for a “finger writing effect”.
Leather Doctor® Protection-W+ (Leather Scent-W)
It’s for waxed Aniline, Vachetta and split Suede leather types.
This is a non-film forming, non-stick rub-resistant protector that enhances a soft natural waxy-feel with a classic leather scent.
It imparts a non-stick breathable barrier essentially to shield the detrimental effects of sticky soiling including the nasty ballpoint ink.
And it does help to release those tenacious dye-transfer stains especially on light colored leathers easily without resorting to unnecessary color refinishing.
Its natural waxy-feel protection increases the leather resistance to wet and dry rubs, thus reduce stretch, scuff and abrasion.
And it reduces friction squeaks that wear the finishes when leather rubs against leather during movement.
To reduce sheen and scent add Waxy Feel-47.
This product is also available in concentrate to be cut with distilled water at a ratio of 1: 9½.
Thus a 120ml bottle makes 1.39 quarts of Ready-To-Use product to save on shipping.
Ready-To-Use packing sizes are available in 250ml and in Quart.
Concentrate packing sizes are available in 120ml (1.39 quarts), 250ml (2.77 quarts) and in Quart (10.5 quarts).
Email [email protected] for prices.
Instruction:
1] Identify, inspect and dry soil removal prior to application.
2] Shake well, mist spray and spread evenly with a foam brush.
3] Or spray and wipe with absorbent towel for quick easy care.