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Zippy14u
12-01-2015, 11:35 AM
This is a vintage Hermes Bareina and toile canvas that has some stain issues. Is there a way I can safely clean this without worrying about bleeding from the leather?

Roger Koh
12-01-2015, 02:00 PM
>>> This is a vintage Hermes Bareina and toile canvas that has some stain issues.

Looks like there are stains on both the fabric and the leather.

Are you cleaning both?

Do you know the fabric material?

Zippy14u
12-01-2015, 02:16 PM
>>> This is a vintage Hermes Bareina and toile canvas that has some stain issues.

Looks like there are stains on both the fabric and the leather.

Are you cleaning both?

Do you know the fabric material?

The fabric is a 'toile canvas'. The leather is 'Bareina'. Yes, I would like to clean both but wondering if the leather would stain/bleed into the canvas.

Roger Koh
12-01-2015, 02:26 PM
Write down the intent sequence of products to be used for both the fabric and the leather and I will advice.

Zippy14u
12-01-2015, 04:03 PM
For the canvas:
Prep 7.7- Cleaner- Rinse

For the leather:
Acidifer (to control any bleeding)- Cleaner- Rinse

Not sure what I should follow with next...

Roger Koh
12-02-2015, 09:36 AM
>>> For the leather: Acidifer (to control any bleeding)- Cleaner- Rinse

The leather trim is to be clean first with:

1- VachettaPro-1.2 (pH value 1.2)
http://www.leatherdoctor.com/vachettapro-1-2/ and follows with

2- Acidifier-2.0 (pH value 2.0)
http://www.leatherdoctor.com/acidifier-2-0/


When dry have an inspection and optional lightening the seasoning effect is perform with:

3- Vachetta-2.8 (pH value 2.8)
http://www.leatherdoctor.com/vachetta-2-8/


When dry have another inspection and protection is perform with:
4- Protector-D
http://www.leatherdoctor.com/protector-d/


>>> For the canvas: Prep 7.7- Cleaner- Rinse

The canvass trim is clean next, by now you would know if there are any dye run from the leather. Canvass from jute is also pH sensitive and may be subject to cellulose browning when pH solution is too high and Prep-7.7 with a pH value of 7.7 is not recommended. You will need a low pH value of 1.5 with:

1- CleanPro-1.5 (pH value 1.5)
http://www.leatherdoctor.com/cleanpro-1-5-2/ and follow with:

2- Acidifier-2.0
http://www.leatherdoctor.com/acidifier-2-0/


The above are the cautious approach to cleaning without side effect and any further persist problem may be safely treated accordingly.

Zippy14u
12-02-2015, 09:57 AM
Thank you. Is 'Hydrator' and 'Fatliquor' also recommended?

Roger Koh
12-02-2015, 10:42 AM
Thank you. Is 'Hydrator' and 'Fatliquor' also recommended?

Yes! It is important to have this Hydrator-3.3 > Fatliquor-5.0 system in place to control further cracking to existing condition.

This Kit-V3+ is for general care of some of the common problem associated with Vachetta leathers. Most products mentioned are found in this kit and the rest may be added as individual items.

5850
Details are found here - http://www.leatherdoctor.com/kit-v3-vachetta-leather-dyestuff-browning-removal-kit/