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    Default Factory Finish damaged

    I am new to the form. But have followed some of the threads and am wondering if anyone on the forum can share their thoughts on my questions.

    I was trying to re dye my Ferragamo Tramezza shoes. In stripping the current color, I used acetone and I am afraid I may have damaged the factory finish. Now when I apply Bick 4 leather conditioner it darkens the stripped off shoes in a very uneven blotchy way. If I apply dye, the shoes just drink it all up making them really darkCan you advise what products should I use to rebuild the factory finish before I start dyeing the shoes again?

    I have also attached a couple of photos. One is after stripping the shoe but before applying Bick 4 and the second one after applying Bick 4.

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    >>> Can you advise what products should I use to rebuild the factory finish before I start dyeing the shoes again?

    Recommend that you pick a system of matched products to achieve your desired result.

    How about from this Kit-A7.cl to start all over again?
    http://www.leatherdoctor.com/kit-a7-...finishing-kit/


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    Thanks Roger. If I understand correctly, this kit comes with a colored dye. Where can I check the different color options?

    If I can, my preference would be use Saphir dyes to mix them and develop my own color mix for these shoes. Would the kit "Kit A6.tc - Aniline Leather Topcoat Refinishing Kit' (http://www.leatherdoctor.com/kit-a6-...finishing-kit/) do the same job except for the dye that comes with Kit-A7.cl recommended by you?

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    >>> If I can, my preference would be use Saphir dyes to mix them and develop my own color mix for these shoes.

    What ever brands of dyes that you use . . . it has to be a "coating transparent dyestuff" a "staining" transparent dyestuff would not work as all staining dyestuff that remains on the surface will also gives you a "bronzing" effect. Example Aniline-21 will fail in this situation, only Aniline-76 will work. Let me know if you want to discuss further?

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    Hi Roger, So I am quite ignorant about the restoration process. I appreciate you responding to my questions so I can get a better understanding of the various products.

    I have some additional questions:

    - Is the Kit-A7.cl - Aniline Leather Dye Refinishing Kit enough for just one pair of shoes or for multiple pairs?
    - Can I buy the dyes that come with this kit separately also, so I can use the kit for multiple pairs?
    - Where can I look up the dye colors that show up as the color option with this kit?

    - Lastly, what is the difference between the 'Kit-A7.cl - Aniline Leather Dye Refinishing Kit' and the 'Kit A6.tc - Aniline Leather Topcoat Refinishing Kit'?

    Thanks a lot for your help.

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    >>> - Is the Kit-A7.cl - Aniline Leather Dye Refinishing Kit enough for just one pair of shoes or for multiple pairs?

    Should be enough for one pair - this is only a starter system kit and refills are available as individual products.


    >>> - Can I buy the dyes that come with this kit separately also, so I can use the kit for multiple pairs?


    Coating dyestuff Aniline-76 is available from this link:
    http://www.leatherdoctor.com/aniline-76/


    >>> - Where can I look up the dye colors that show up as the color option with this kit?

    If you post some color I may able to recommend the closest match.
    Available are the standard or primary colors, all secondary and tertiary colors are further extendable.

    Color Options:
    Antique Brown
    Black
    Yellow
    Orange
    Red
    Red-Brown
    Rubine
    Blue
    Navy-Blue
    Dark-Brown
    Clear
    Oliver Sweeney Brown (tertiary color)
    Custom Color

    Tips:
    Aniline transparent dyestuff color intensity from the bottle is “what you see is not what you get” unlike the opaque Micro-54 color pigment. The see-through color intensity increases with additional coating. As seen from the above picture example it produces 4 shades or color intensity from top to bottom and the luster level from left to right. Aniline-76 Clear is used to reduce or control color intensity by mixing with the color dyestuff to maximize out the color intensity prior to application.

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    >>> - Lastly, what is the difference between the 'Kit-A7.cl - Aniline Leather Dye Refinishing Kit' and the 'Kit A6.tc - Aniline Leather Topcoat Refinishing Kit'?

    Kit-A6.tc is without the dyestuff.

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