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    Default Hermes - Amazonia - Repair, Restore and Redye

    I had bought this preowned Hermes Amazonia and am hoping to fix this. Amazonia is a rubber coated canvas and I had cleaned it with a Leather Doctor Aniline cleaner, followed with a rinse. I am showing before and after pictures.

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    The bag has dried out more, the brown color has returned but the areas of wear are still present (yellow)

    Can this still be salvaged?

    Thanks
    Last edited by Zippy14u; 10-21-2014 at 05:39 PM.

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    >>> The bag has dried out more.

    I am not familiar with the cause of “rubber coated canvas” drying out, but it must be the plasticizers that have diminishes through time just like the fat liquor for leathers.


    >>> Cracks

    Cracks is filled up with Stucco-90 + Bond-3D + Dyestuff for added flexibility and aesthetic.


    >>> the brown color has returned but the areas of wear are still present (yellow).

    Restoration with color refinishing can be achieved with either transparent “coating” Aniline76 or translucent “coating” Antique-27.


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    Leather Doctor Leather Stucco-90
    Leather Doctor® Leather Stucco-90 is design for leather filling repairs or working in conjunction with leather Bond-3D, colors and dyes. This is a waterbased high concentrated compact resin blend leather stucco.


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    Leather Doctor Leather Bond-3D (30ml)
    Leather Doctor® Leather Bond-3D is for leather structure bonding repairs, such as abrasion, cat-scratch, and filling repairs with Stucco-90, Pigment-64, Micro-54, Anline-76 and Aniline-21. This waterbased medium soft polyurethane leather bond will not lift the leather finishes unlike other dry solvent-based glue. Works in conjunction with leather Patch-4S as sub patch and suede fibers as fillers. Excess clean up when dry will require the help of Bond-7A.


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    Leather Doctor Aniline-76
    Aniline-76 is a transparent dyestuff design for coating over existing topcoat. This lively and brilliant new generation aqueous dyestuff provides a more superior light fastness and fades resistance than most standard liquid dyes. To stain directly into leather with no impeding topcoat use Aniline-21 instead.
    Use AnilineTop-21 (standard) or AnilineTop-76 (heavy duty) thereafter to seal dyestuff from crocking or bleeding that also decides the luster with either gloss or matte, or a mix for a satin luster. Brush or pad application use AnilineTop-21 to reduce streaking. Airbrushing use AnilineTop-76 to reduce flows or drips.
    Nine (9) standard colors are available for direct application and for creating a secondary or tertiary color to match.
    The popular Antique-Brown is an example of a mix of one part Orange, Red-Brown and Dark-Brown.


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    Leather Doctor Antique-27
    Leather Doctor® Antique-27 is a water-based compact resin blend translucent hybrid dyestuff design for antiquing leathers to create a secondary, two-tone or an old English leather antique effect. Two-tone wipe effect is created when dry by the use of Adhesor-73 as a mean to rub-off the tip or grain to produce a lightening effect. MicroTop-54 luster choice of gloss, satin or matte seals the color coating and Protector-B+ imparts a non-stick, rub-resistant buttery-feel protection against wear with a classic leather scent.
    Popular colors are available in Black, Chestnut, Burgundy and Tan.


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    Leather Doctor Kit A7.cl – Aniline Leather Dye Refinishing Kit
    Leather Doctor® Kit A7.cl, aniline leather dye refinishing kit is designed for dyestuff and topcoat refinishing from the simple sunlight fading to the severely sweat damages from body oil and grease. Most severely penetrated, prolonged and neglected stains show a darkening effect with a sticky feel have its topcoat and dyestuff probably deteriorated by the sweat. When the stain feels sticky, it is a sign of leather denaturing and reverting to rawhide from breaking of bonds with the tanning agent. When sign of color is transfer to a white towel, it indicates that the dyestuff has also break bonds with the protein fiber. When leather is stiff or shows signs of whitish residue migrating, it shows that the fatliquor is breaking bonds as well with the protein fiber. The main component of the leather protein fiber is amphoteric while the other constituents are not; shifting of the pH mainly caused from sweat to alkalinity affects the pH imbalance. To revert from denaturing into rawhide prior to topcoat refinishing, contaminated alkaline soiling is removed with Degreaser-2.2, a waterbased (pH 2.2) multifunctional degreaser that emulsifies greasy contamination besides controlling dye bleeding and charging the protein fiber ionic positive for strengthening the attraction between the ionic negative tanning agent, dyestuff and fatliquor. Deflocculated and suspended soiling is towel extracted, thereafter rinse and pH balanced with Acidifier-2.0 to prevent the leather from reverting to rawhide. When leather feels sticky or slimy it is a sign of leather denaturing, a squeaky feel when wet is a sign of a healthy leather. Hydrator-3.3 relaxes stiff leathers and removes surface tension free from surface blotchiness prior to fat and oil replenishing. Fat and oil is replenished with Fatliquor-5.0 to rejuvenate the leather for the desired suppleness when dry. Custom redyeing commences prior to topcoat refinishing. Protector-B+ imparts a non-stick rub-resistant protection with a buttery-feel that shield against sticky soiling and reduce friction noises. Note that the mentioned product suffix number denotes its pH value in this holistic leather-safe aniline leathers dyestuff and topcoat refinishing system.
    Please email [email protected] for custom matching services or choice of color: Antique-Brown, Black, Yellow, Orange, Red, Red-Brown, Rubine, Blue or Dark-Brown.
    And choice of topcoat luster:
    Gloss or Satin
    This kit comes with reduced weight option to save on shipping thus the 250ml concentrate ratio such as Acidifier-2.0, Rinse-3.0, Hydrator-3.3 and Fatliquor-5.0 has to be cut or filled up with distilled water prior to use.


    Roger Koh
    Leather Care Consultant
    [email protected]
    www.LeatherDoctor.com

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    The Hermes rubber coated canvas is said to be a latex material. This has now been discontinued due to it's problems. But is still one I feel worth saving. Since I have already gone over the bag (cleaning/rinsing), I noticed that you mention using the degreaser and acidifier, products I already have. Should I start over with this?

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    >>> Should I start over with this?

    What do you wish to achieve - a complete restoration colour refinishing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Koh View Post
    >>> Should I start over with this?

    What do you wish to achieve - a complete restoration colour refinishing?
    I would like to repair the surface damage first. I think that is the worst of it. Once that is done, I would do the rest

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    Prior to repairs you need to do a restorative cleaning.

    Restorative cleaning is done with Degreaser-2.2 > Rinse-3.0 or Acidifier-2.0 (tacky control) system.

    Repair is a combination system with Stucco-90 + Bond-3D + Dyestuff.

    Redyeing system is done with Adhesor-73 > Aniline-76 (transparent coating) > AnilineTop-21/76 gloss or satin to match.

    Protection is done with Protector-B+

    If you show pictures of your progress I will help you along the way.

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